19 Nov 2016

Tel Aviv asked Moscow not to sell arms to Iran

Israel appealed to Russia not to sell Iran advanced weapons, RIA Novosti quotes "Haaretz".

Original text and comments at https://topwar.ru/103899-smi-tel-aviv-poprosil-moskvu-ne-prodavat-iranu-vooruzhenie.html



Israel appealed to Russia not to sell Iran advanced weapons, RIA Novosti quotes "Haaretz".



Media: Tel Aviv has asked Moscow not to sell arms to Iran

Earlier it was reported that Iran is interested in purchasing large quantities of Russian military equipment.

"Israel asked Russia not to promote the huge deal to sell advanced fighters and other weapons to Iran" says the resource with reference to the defense minister Avigdor Lieberman.

The minister noted that the Israeli government has little chances to influence Moscow on this issue.

Recently the head of a Committee under the Federation Council Viktor Ozerov reported that Iranian military, inter alia, are interested in Russian tanks, artillery systems, as well as planes and helicopters. He noted that until 2020, sale of such arms are only possible with the permission of the UN Security Council.

Photos used: http://guide-israel.ru

Comments



Andrey Yuryevich Yesterday, 12:25


Great! And who will compensate to [us] for the loss of profit?

tilovaykrisa Yesterday, 12:33 ↑



This is not for the first time; at first [they] asked not to sell air defense, and now fighters))) in this respect our own interests should be observed above all, especially taking into account the sanctions.

_Vladislav_ Yesterday, 12:35 ↑



Quote: tilovaykrisa

great! and who compensates for the loss of profit?


You just have to tell the Israeli colleagues that this is not directed against Israel) laughing

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 12:43 ↑



Quote: _Vladislav_

You just have to tell the Israeli colleagues that this is not directed against Israel)


Israel has a better chance of becoming Russia's friendly state than Iran, and it is needed to negotiate with the Israelis, to provide some kind of security guarantee.

Not always an immediate benefit would lead to further positive effects.

The best option is to reconcile Israel with the Persians, but it is a super complicated task.

Alex777 Yesterday, 12:47 ↑


We can sell weapons to Israel too so that they are not to worry. bully

Stirborn Yesterday, 12:58 ↑


Quote: Alex777

We can sell weapons to Israel too so that they are not to worry. bully


it would be a Solomonic decision fellow laughing

Monarchist Yesterday, 14:51 ↑


It works something like this: the S300 systems to be sold to Israel and fighter jets to Iran, and may be a couple of planes on Monday to Israel, and on Tuesday to Iran?

prosto expl Yesterday, 12:48 ↑


it is not something that is super complicated, it is impossible, because the two have a mutually exclusive mentality. And Israel is the aggressor here.

tilovaykrisa Yesterday, 13:57 ↑


Just captured a piece of homeland for themselves, laughing

ultra Yesterday, 12:59 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Israel has a better chance of becoming a friendly state for Russia than Iran


We do not need "friendship"; more important is the influence of the state at the regional level. And in this, Israel is no competition to Iran.

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 14:46 ↑


Quote: ultra

We do not need "friendship", but more importantly the influence of the state at the regional level. And in this, Israel is no competition to Iran.


It's not just in the Middle East.


There are fears that the US will establish diplomatic relations with Iran and Russia will not be needed to Iran as a friend, and Iranian religious emissaries would travel to the Caucasus to pour fuel to the fire of Islamic state, Russia will have a lot of headaches, significantly greater than that coming from Israel.

ultra Yesterday, 15:04 ↑


What religious emissaries??? In the Caucasus, people [profess] Sunni Islam! And if there are such emissaries, they would mostly be Turkish and Saudis.

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 17:55 ↑


Quote: ultra

What religious emissaries???


With the motto "In the Caucasus, the Islamic Revolution should prevail!"

Eragon Yesterday, 13:00 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Not always an immediate benefit would lead to further positive effects.


In my opinion, the best solution would be to provide assurances of non-aggression of Israel against Iran, with the relevant agreements between Israel and Russia, but at the same time to guarantee the supply of arms to Iran immediately in case of violation by Israel of its obligations.

And ideally, to oblige Israel to ensure safety of Iran. But it is a utopia. wassat

atalef Yesterday, 13:06 ↑


Quote: Eragon

...would provide guarantees of non-aggression of Israel against Iran


I wonder how Israel will attack Iran? 1500 km. are between us

Quote: Eragon

And ideally to oblige Israel to ensure safety of Iran.


Are you out of your mind?

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has repeatedly made threats to destroy Israel. According to him, the Jewish state will disappear within 25 years.

During the recent missile tests, Iranian troops fired missile launches, with an inscription "Death to Israel."

prosto expl Yesterday, 13:10 ↑


And how Iran will attack Israel? 1500 km between us?


or Israel does not want Iran to expand its influence in the region and pressed the Saudis, your servants (and they are your slaves, even though they pretend to be so zealous and independent Muslims)?

vatnik Yesterday, 13:17 ↑


Quote: atalef

Are you out of your mind?

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has repeatedly made threats to destroy Israel. According to him, the Jewish state will disappear within 25 years.

During the recent missile tests, Iranian troops fired missile launches, with inscription "Death to Israel."


Iran promised to destroy Israel if the aggressive Zionist state would dare to attack peaceful Iran.

atalef Yesterday, 13:26 ↑


Quote: vatnik

Iran has promised to destroy Israel if the aggressive Zionist state would dare to attack peaceful Iran.


Then Iran has nothing to fear.

vatnik Yesterday, 14:06 ↑


Quote: atalef

Then Iran has nothing to fear.


Really nothing but the aggressive Israeli regime?

The Jews have destroyed and annexed one country, Palestine. Therefore, Iran is naturally afraid of your unpredictable regime.

atalef Yesterday, 14:07 ↑


Quote: vatnik

The Jews have destroyed and annexed the State of Palestine


What are you saying? And who said that? What a reputable organization?

vatnik Yesterday, 15:03 ↑


Quote: atalef

atalef Today, 14:07 ↑


Quote: vatnik

The Jews have destroyed and annexed one country, Palestine

What are you saying? And who said that? What a reputable organization?


And you do not know that you live in the country of aggressors and occupants?

If you do not know that I will explain for you: you, Jews, captured and then actually annexed Palestine which was established by a UN resolution at the same time when Israel.

FYI:

The occupation of Palestine War 1948



Ezhak Yesterday, 15:04 ↑


Interestingly, and who is so strongly opposed to the creation of an independent Palestinian state? Is it Russia headed by Vladimir Putin?

Eragon Yesterday, 14:21 ↑


Quote: atalef

I wonder how Israel will attack Iran? 1500 km. are between us


[using] Aviation, it happened already so many times.

Quote: atalef

Quote: Eragon

And ideally it would be to oblige Israel to ensure safety of Iran.

Are you out of your mind?


What mind? Kindly, please read to the end other people's comments, and do not pull out pieces from the context

Quote: Eragon

And ideal it would be to oblige Israel to ensure safety of Iran.
But it is a utopia. wassat

Monarchist Yesterday, 15:01 ↑


And you should ask this from Eragon, will you swear on the Bible that you will love Iran, and they will test rockets without inscriptions?

vatnik Yesterday, 13:04 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Israel has better chances of becoming a friend of Russia than Iran, and it is needed to negotiate with the Israelis, to provide some kind of security guarantees.


What kind of our friendly state is Israel?

Israel just voted along with the US and the EU that the Crimea belongs to Ukraine.

So it is clearly needed to supply arms to Iran and try to strengthen comprehensive ties with it.

Today, there is an exhibition in Iran, 2016 Iran Air Show, and there are our SU [planes] presented.

The presence of Russian companies at the Iran Airshow 2016 was the biggest in the entire history of the exhibition. Among the participants: United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), Russian Helicopters, United Engine Corporation (UEC), Concern of Air and Space Forces Almaz-Antey, JSC Aviasalon, JSC ALLVE Foreign Trade Company, CIAM named after P.I. Baranov. The Russian delegation was comprised of more than 50 specialists and industry experts.

The program of 2016 Iran Air Show includes daily air shows of the Russian aerobatic team Russian Knights


Sergei Shoigu: Iran and Russia must work together to confront international terrorism



atalef Yesterday, 13:13 ↑


Quote: vatnik

Israel just voted with the US and the EU that the Crimea belongs to Ukraine.

UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine - a document adopted on 27 March 2014 as a result of the open voting at the 80th plenary meeting of the 68th session of the UN General Assembly. According to the resolution, the UN General Assembly reaffirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine in its internationally recognized borders and does not recognize the legality of whatever changes to the status of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea status and Sevastopol city, based on the results of the Crimean referendum held on March 16, 2014, as the referendum according to this resolution, it is null and void.

Of the 193 countries - 100 members of the UN expressed "supported", 11 voted "against", and 58 countries "abstained" from vote, 24 countries did not cast a vote.


Do you mean this? Israel did not participate in the vote

PACE voted to recognize Russia as the "aggressor country" in the amendments to the resolution on missing persons in the conflict in Ukraine. In addition, the document called the Crimean territory as "occupied".

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) adopted a resolution by a majority vote on missing persons in the conflict in Donbas. The amendments to the document organization members voted to recognize Russia as the aggressor. The resolution is available on the official website of the Assembly.

More details on the RBC:

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/25/06/2015/558c5cd39a7947db48a243ae

maybe this? Again lies --- Israel is not present at the PACE

so what we are talking about, Vatnik?

may be about this?

What does it mean for Ukraine: adoption of the UN resolution on Crimea: the opinion of diplomats and politicians

The international community has made another step towards de-occupation of Ukrainian peninsula

Yesterday, 15 November, the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution on the Ukrainian Crimea. The UN has for the first time recognized Russia as the aggressor and the peninsula as a temporarily occupied territory.

Resolution was supported by 73 member countries of UN General Assembly, 23 States voted "no", and 76 - abstained.

Now you are just like us, the aggressors. laughing

I wonder how you are going to further refer to the United Nations and the Hague Court? laughing

vatnik Yesterday, 13:28 ↑


Quote: atalef

maybe this? Lied again --- Israel is not present in PACE

so what we are talking about, Vatnik?


It is only you who is a liar, though not just you, almost the entire contingent of Israeli Jews engaged in propaganda and misinformation here. And I spoke about this vote. A table with its outcome was given in the topic about Belarus and United Nations.



By the way, our "best friends" Israeli Jews voted "in support" of the resolution proposed by the current president of Ukraine Poroshenko (Valtzman) while constantly saying that they were against the Nazis and terrorists as much respect to our country.

That's according to these results of the vote that we can understand who are allies of ours and who are not.

Israel supported the UN resolution on the belonging of the Crimea to Ukraine

The adoption of General Assembly resolution condemning human rights abuses, discriminatory measures and practices against residents on the temporarily occupied Crimea, including Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians and persons belonging to other ethnic and religious groups, from the Russian occupation authorities.

Clearly, it is stated in the UN resolution that the international organization "condemns the temporary occupation of Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol (the Crimea) by the Russian Federation in Ukraine and confirms the non-recognition of its annexation."

The Israeli delegation had voted in favor of the resolution on the Ukrainian status of Crimea, together with representatives of the US, Canada and EU countries.

http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1 /2016/11/16/izrail-podderzhal-rezolyuciyu-oon-o-prinadlezhnosti-krima-ukraine/



vatnik Yesterday, 13:44 ↑


Quote: atalef

Israel has not participated in the vote


Participated in this one:


The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution on human rights violations in the Crimea. The document was supported by the representatives of 73 countries, 23 countries voted against. The text of the resolution calls Russia the "occupier state". Also, the resolution states that "does not recognize the annexation of the Crimea."

Ukrainian draft resolution entitled "The human rights situation in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol (Ukraine)" in the UN was supported by 73 countries, 23 states voted against, among them the Russian Federation and Belarus.

"FOR" - votes by Israel, the US, the EU

"AGAINST" - votes by Angola, Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Burundi, Cambodia, China, Cuba, Comoro Island, Korea, Kazakhstan, India, Iran, Russia, Nicaragua, Serbia, South Africa, Sudan, Syria, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Eritrea, Zimbabwe.

http://rian.com.ua/world_news/20161116/1018755845.html

atalef Yesterday, 13:49 ↑


Quote: vatnik

"FOR" - voted by Israel, US, EU.

Document supported by representatives of 73 countries, 23 voted against


vatnik, publish the whole list.

US, EU and Israel certainly do not make 73 countries. wink

Occupants! just like us now

by the way, why didn't you publish this?

Earlier Tuesday, the Belarus delegation in the Third Committee attempted to remove the draft resolution on the Crimea, saying the politicization of the issue of human rights, but this proposal was supported by only 32 delegations, 101 voted against and 37 abstained.

RIA Novosti Ukraine: http://rian.com.ua/world_news/20161116/1018755845.html

vatnik Yesterday, 14:11 ↑


Quote: atalef

vatnik, publish the whole list.

US, EU and Israel certainly do not make 73 countries. wink


atalef, are you blind or what?

I specifically provided the above table with the results of the voting by the countries participants click on it and see the results of voting.

Quote: atalef

Occupants just like we are now


atalef occupant is the regime of Israel who seized Palestine by using military force.

Crimea became part of the Russian voluntarily based on the outcome of the vote [referendum].

atalef Yesterday, 14:15 ↑


Quote: vatnik

I specifically provided the above table with the results of voting by the participating countries



sorry, kind of poor sight of mine

you throw in a small list.

Like with those who are against.

Quote: vatnik

atalef occupant is the regime of Israel who seized Palestine by using military force.


Is this what they told you at the UN?

Quote: vatnik

Crimea became part of the Russian voluntarily based on the outcome of the voting.


Strange, but the UN does not agree with you. wink

vatnik Yesterday, 15:10 ↑


Quote: atalef

sorry, kind of poor sight of mine

you throw in a small list.


Well, do not slow down, atalef, just click on it with the mouse and it will be there for the rest of the page.

Quote: atalef

Is this what they told you at the UN?


Everyone knows that.

Quote: atalef

Strange, but the UN does not agree with you.


Who exactly? Israel, EU and US?

This is not surprising because in these countries are very fond of the Nazis and do not like Russia.

And let's not forget who are now in power in Ukraine and who gives orders to kill their citizens.

Monarchist Yesterday, 15:14 ↑


If you have problems with your eyes, as a friend (quite a while "hanging out with me" here) I will give you a magnifying glass (a good 4-fold one with a backlight)

Ezhak Yesterday, 15:18 ↑


Quote: atalef

The UN does not agree with you.


And the reason is simple. Most of the voters are the ones licking the wrong asses proactively. For example, which of European countries has the right to express its opinion without regard to the United States, including Israel?

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 18:08 ↑


Quote: N100

Man go home, here is a Russian forum


F-ck, and I thought it was a global Russian-speaking [forum] what should we do now? I have already spent few years here.

Quote: N100

instead of protecting the Israeli club.


Are you an Israeli-phobic ?

opus Yesterday, 13:15 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

The best option is to reconcile Israel with the Persians, but it is a super challenge.


I think the compromise is as follows:

1. Iran refers to the United States (and some EU countries) asking not to sell advanced weapons to Israel (F-35, Patriot, missile components, ATGM (anti-tank missiles), Air-to-Air missiles, submarines, etc.).

USA definitely is the largest supplier of weapons to Israel. According to data released by the US government, the weapons deliveries to Israel from January to May 2014 included "rocket launchers" for the sum of 27 million dollars, "the details of guided missiles" amounting to 9,3 million, and "bombs, grenades and military equipment worth about 762,000 dollars."

The US and "some" EU countries agree, Russia also agrees.

If no, then Russia says no too.

2. Israel and Iran have both come to the CSTO and the EEAS

The Eurasian Economic Union and Israel intend to create a free trade zone.

It is true there are many difficulties...

However, it is still possible?

Rashid al-Doule; Rashid al-Tabib: example


or 'Weapons in exchange for oil "or" Tzur" ("Stone")

wink

Monarchist Yesterday, 15:18 ↑


Opus, I like your plan. However, there is a problem: what our comrade atalef will say?

Homo Yesterday, 13:16 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Israel has better chances to become a friend of Russia than Iran


And in confirmation of its "friendliness" Israel shelled and bombed Syria?

Nyrobsky Yesterday, 15:05 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Not always an immediate benefit would lead to further positive effects.

The best option is to reconcile Israel with the Persians, but it is a super challenge.


So it is true, but, as it was mentioned above: there is a commercial interest and "compensation" for loss of profit. If the weapon is not coming from one side, it may come from another. The market of arms tolerates no vacuum. On the other hand, the strengthening of Iran creates the opportunity to set a dialogue with Israel not in the language of ultimatums, but within the framework of agreements. I don't think that because of the supply of weapons the balance of power will change so much that it would create a threat to Israel. Whether you like it or not, the nuclear weapons of Israel are a serious argument in a conversation with Iran.

As for reconciliation, it is not all so bad with this issue, especially if there is interest in joint economic projects, and they have them.

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 18:13 ↑


Nyrobsky So it is true, but, as it was mentioned above: there is a commercial interest and "compensation" for loss of profit. If the weapon is not coming from one side, it may come from another. The market of arms tolerates no vacuum.


Trading with Iran is necessary, but it must be done in a smart way.

Krabik Yesterday, 22:31 ↑


If Israel on every corner makes threats with its nuclear weapons, then it will be seen soon in Iran too, the world has a lot of kind people [to provide Iran with nuclear weapons].

Moreover, does Russia care about security of Israel?!

In my opinion, Iran is much closer to us and it is so even though in Israel, paradoxically, there are so many Russian Jews and they do not care about our security, no more to say!

ivanov17 Yesterday, 19:43 ↑


When Israel was a friendly state? This is discussed for 25 years, and nothing but chatter. A shelter of fleeing oligarchs and other scams, delivery of arms and military instructors to Georgia and New Ukraine, bombing of Syrian troops under the pretext of preventing Hezbollah supplies. You will wait another 1000 years for a chance to get Israel as a friend. Nothing new, except for demagogy about the millions of former compatriots, "Russians under the Moses Law," who cry at night remembering the Russian birches and cucumber pickle. They are not weeping and are not getting nostalgic, but are cursing Putin, and "urinate with boiling water" [Russian slang for being in a state of total excitement or obsession] after videoconferencing of operations in Syria. Come and see the comments at the Russian-language sites of Israel.

Gigant mysli Yesterday, 12:36 ↑


Yes, if Israel guarantees a payment to Russia of all lost profit from this deal, then we can think about their offer, taking into account the 100% Israeli prepayment.

AM. GET Yesterday, 13:09 ↑


What are you saying! Such huge money - shekels. No, for such money half [of them] are ready to do anything.

Monarchist Yesterday, 15:22 ↑


Gigant, are you missing the crayfish's whistle [Russian saying same as when hell freezes over]? Israel will make a 150% advance payment, when the hell freezes over twice

YUBORG Yesterday, 12:41 ↑


Sumptuously! Jews are still following their repertoire, most interestingly, that the drone without the remote control given as present to Medvedev, they demand to be returned! Apparently there was something in it that was still more expensive than gold for a vulnerable Jewish soul! Funny people, these weird and strange people, for a shekel they will do anything, and for us, we still cannot have trade?! laughing

vovanpain Yesterday, 12:53 ↑


Israel appealed to Russia asking not to sell advanced weapons to Iran


Hmm, actually a holy place is never empty. If not Russia, China will sell, and closer to 2020 the mattresses [slang reference to the US, as their flag looks like a mattress] will start to make proposals, and I think Israel, will hurry too. Therefore, I agree.

Quote: Andrey Yurevich

great! and who will compensate for the loss of profits?


Strelets2 Yesterday, 12:58 ↑


Media: Tel Aviv asked Moscow not to sell arms to Iran

Is Russia will give in to the insolent demands of the aggressor?

s-t Petrov Yesterday, 13:09 ↑


We should ask Israel not to buy weapons from the United States and not to take their money.

And no would mean no.

lis-ik Yesterday, 13:32 ↑


It's not about whether [Russia] will give in or not, they are now considering to impose new sanctions on governments backing the Assad regime, Iran, and we get under such sanctions automatically, so that the embargo on sales of weapons to Iran is likely to be prolonged and it is unlikely that Iran will ever receive its arrested money (our [moneybags] need to consider this), moreover, there is no hope that Trump [will do anything] in this matter, he was initially against the deal with Iran. So, that if we want to supply arms to Iran, it is needed to disregard the United Nations, and we are there in the Security Council, so that there is no much choice as such.

Vadim237 Yesterday, 13:42 ↑


Iran is likely to have collected all their arrested money, therefore Russia will not give up the deal amounting to 640 billion rubles with Iran.

lis-ik Yesterday, 13:46 ↑


Has not collected as of now, today they talked about it on Vesti FM, and now it will hardly collect [its money]. As to the deal, it just does not work under the law.

vatnik Yesterday, 14:19 ↑


Quote: Strelets2

Will Russia give in to the insolent demands of the aggressor?


"Russia highly appreciates cooperation with Iran on the Syrian settlement" said the speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matviyenko after a meeting with the chairman of the Iranian parliament Ali Larijani. She is on a visit to Tehran. According to Matvienko, after signing an agreement on the Iranian nuclear program, the two countries opened new opportunities for the development of relations in different spheres.



Now, after our delegation, Minister of Defense of China arrived in Iran too, probably to seize a part of the market for the supply of arms.

"Collaboration of Iran and China is a guarantee of peace in the world"


Iranian and Chinese defense ministers examined ways to expand military and defense cooperation between the two countries on the regional and international arenas.

http://parstoday.com/ru/news/iran-i49759

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 14:26 ↑


Quote: vatnik

"Russia highly appreciates cooperation with Iran on the Syrian settlement" said the speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko


vatnik, and what did Medvedev say recently in Israel?

Medvedev said that he "feels at home in Israel." These words can be regarded as a political statement, as well as a visit to the Holy Sepulcher and the Wailing Wall, said Briskin.

Write Medvedev to your personal enemy list urgently! laughing

ultra Yesterday, 15:06 ↑


Quote: Alexander Romanov

Medvedev said that he "feels at home in Israel."


A half of our government feels that way.

vatnik Yesterday, 15:19 ↑


Quote: Alexander Romanov

vatnik, What did Medvedev say recently in Israel?


This is what was expected, the rumors about his nationality have been around for a long time.

In general, I thought he would stay there in Israel for permanent residence. If he would have stayed there, he would be there with you having fun with Alexander Romanov, atalef, professor [Israel-based members of the forum] and you would sit together on the porch of a synagogue and would chat chat chat lol

Observer 33 Yesterday, 15:00 ↑


Quote: Andrey Yurevich

Great! and who will compensate for the loss of profits?


My question is the same, but is Israel ready to pay our bills? If yes, then we do not trade in arms, let Israel pays all our Wishlists. laughing

skarl Yesterday, 17:29 ↑


they will compensate with matzoth...

AndreenkoD Yesterday, 18:26 ↑


Quote: skarl

they will compensate with matzoth...


Moscow will only agree to oranges [as compensation]:))))

oleg-gr Yesterday, 12:26


Iran is more important to the Russian Federation than Israel. It will be an occasion to appeal to the Amerikoses [slang for US] for new supply of dollars and weapons.

BABA SCHUR Yesterday, 12:31 ↑


If we look at the government, Russia has long been part of Israel.

N100 Yesterday, 16:13 ↑


BABA SCHUR

If we look at the government, Russia has long been part of Israel.


Well, it is clear, and who organized Maidan in 1991 in Moscow? The same part of privatizers whose interests are protected in Israel closely (members of government)

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 12:46 ↑


Quote: oleg-gr

Iran is more important to the Russian Federation than Israel.


And why is it more important? Tomorrow an American will arrive in Iran and they will establish their friendship, and Russia will have a neighbor state with claims on Russian territory.

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 12:56 ↑


Quote: oleg-gr

Iran is more important to the Russian Federation than Israel.


How come?

vatnik Yesterday, 13:33 ↑


Quote: Alexander Romanov

How come?


Interestingly Alexander Romanov, how your [forum nationality] flag is jumping, in the morning it was American, now it is different smile

Are you following in the footsteps of your friend atalef and went to travel around the world? lol

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 14:08 ↑


Quote: vatnik

Are you following in the footsteps of your friend atalef and went to travel around the world?


Envy in silence! You could just once write something clever, but you keep saying Jews, Jews, Jews. Bow to the portrait of Kim, it is time for the prayer already.

vatnik Yesterday, 15:21 ↑


Quote: Alexander Romanov

it is time for the prayer already.


Yes, you already visited the synagogue? smile

Quote: Alexander Romanov

You could just once write something clever


That is, you are now writing something clever? lol

Observer 33 Yesterday, 15:05 ↑


Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: oleg-gr

Iran is more important to the Russian Federation than Israel.


How come?



Well, it is not! The question is whether Israel is ready to make up for lost money or not? If not, then this appeal is at the same time stupid (not Jewish style at all) and arrogant (exactly Jewish style) and I do not know which of the two is more important in it.

Proton Yesterday, 12:28


Israel, as always, is at its best, laughing, [pretending to speak with a Jewish accent in Russian] you don't sell, we want to sell ourselves...

Operator Yesterday, 12:30


No problem: let Israel itself buys Russian weapons for 10 billion dollars..

Chatting does not mean paying money... bully

rotmistr60 Yesterday, 12:30


Quote: Andrey Yurevich

great! and who will compensate for the loss of profits?


Probably Atalef with Professor will share the costs, and others who will join them.

Andrey Yuryevich Yesterday, 12:35 ↑


Quote: rotmistr60

Quote: Andrey Yurevich

great! and who will compensate for the loss of profits?

Probably Atalef with Professor will share the costs, and others who will join them.





PTS-m Yesterday, 12:34


Look at this, even here the Jews are interfering. Like in the saying... You do not tell us where to go, and I will not tell you who you are...

saturn. mmm Yesterday, 12:51 ↑


Quote: PTS-m

Look at this, even here the Jews are interfering.


Iran has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel and the worries of Jews are understandable to me, and who will guarantee that the Persians, after being reinforced, will not intervene to the Caucasus and Central Asia?

Stirborn Yesterday, 12:59 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Iran has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel and the worries of Jews are understandable to me, and who will guarantee that the Persians, after being reinforced, will not intervene to the Caucasus and Central Asia?


It will be guaranteed by the availability of our nuclear weapons

ultra Yesterday, 13:02 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

guarantee that the Persians, after being reinforced, will not intervene to the Caucasus and Central Asia?


Persians are Shiites, and mostly Sunni Islam in the Caucasus and in Central Asia.

vatnik Yesterday, 13:08 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Iran has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel


Israel is constantly cries out to the whole world that someone wants to destroy it, to throw into the sea and so on, but it is only to divert world's attention from its occupation of Palestine. So if we "make friends" with it, there is no sense. Israel is our rival and a US satellite.

Observer 33 Yesterday, 15:11 ↑


Quote: saturn. mmm

Iran has repeatedly threatened to destroy Israel


So this is our problem? request

Quote: saturn. mmm

and who will guarantee that the reinforced Persians will not intervene to the Caucasus and Central Asia?


Good Lord can give such guarantees. Although I do not remember [such cases]...

And on my own I would say: somebody, someday, somewhere is going to intervene. That's for sure.

ivanov17 Yesterday, 19:47 ↑


Israel itself, together with the United States threatened much more often to bomb Iran, Syria, why are you not worried about this?

Valter1364 Yesterday, 12:35


And if Russia does not listen [to them], they will declare a hunger strike? wink

Vadim237 Yesterday, 13:45 ↑


Israel faces drought in a few years as drinking water supplies are reduced - so that, at the X hour, Israel may turn to Russia asking for sales of fresh drinking water.

AndreenkoD Yesterday, 18:38 ↑


Quote: Vadim237

Israel faces drought in a few years as drinking water supplies are reduced - so that, at the X hour, Israel may turn to Russia asking for sales of fresh drinking water.


Doing Vanga?? [Russian slang for 'making predictions' reference to Bulgarian clairvoyant Baba Vanga] Jordan is buying Israeli water, Russians buy black caviar from Israel (probably it will soon start to buy snow), and you're talking about droughts :))))

Krabik Today, 02:05 ↑


I heard there was a snowfall in Israel, first time for 40 years and it [the snow] was sold to Russia and this is not a joke.

Just how can one live like this?!

Damir Yesterday, 12:42


no problem!!!!! 10 billion evergreens [slang for American dollars] and stop attacks on Syria...

askort154 Yesterday, 12:42


What an audacity! In the spring of this year, the US has provided Israel with 43 bln. dollars for 3 years for military development. Purchase from us for 10 billion. (this amount is the tentative cost of the deal with Iran), then we'll talk.

atalef Yesterday, 12:55 ↑


Quote: askort154

In the spring of this year, the US has provided Israel with 43 bln. dollars for 3 years for military development.


Why not 100 billion a year?

askort154 Yesterday, 13:17 ↑


Atalef... . Why not 100 billion a year?


My fault, my memory is full of holes. I would specify. The volume of US aid to Israel since 1973 has reached an astronomical sum of 1,6 trillion dollars. (Thomas Stauffer). Only the "Iron Dome" program received allocations: 2011 - 205 mln., 2012 - 265 mln, 2013 - 200 million. In 2016 it was decided to provide military aid package of $38 billion dollars over the next 10 years. (This is not from the memory)

atalef Yesterday, 13:35 ↑


Quote: askort154

since 1973 has reached an astronomical sum of 1,6 trillion dollars.


1.6 trillion divided by 40 years makes 40 billion a year? belay

Quote: askort154

My fault, my memory is full of holes.


you should apologize again

Quote: askort154

In 2016 it was decided to provide military aid package of $38 billion dollars over the next 10 years. (This is not from the memory)


When it is not from memory, it is then more precise. 3.8 billion a year non-cash for the purchase of US weapons.

I advise again, do a memory check.

askort154 Yesterday, 14:25 ↑


Atalef... ... 1.6 trillion divided by 40 years --- 40 billion a year?


Arithmetic is a stubborn thing. Trust but check! If I meet Thomas Stauffer, I will kill [him]

ivanov17 Yesterday, 19:48 ↑


This is about the self-sufficiency of Israel, of which supporters of Israel and their shabbesgoi like to speak

vatnik Yesterday, 13:34 ↑


Quote: askort154

Well, what an audacity!


Yes, Israel is a country of "beggars", they are used to live, as they say, for a freebie.

Wiskar Yesterday, 20:55 ↑


Quote: vatnik

Yes, Israel is a country of "beggars", they are used to live, as they say, for a freebie.


You're just jealous, that Israel is a small country and the people in it are better off than in the huge Russia with its vast resources.

Life expectancy -

In Israel - 82.5 years

In Russia - 70.5 years [improved to 72 according to Wiki]

The list of countries by infant mortality -

Israel 4 per 1000

Russian 9,6 per 1000 [fell to 6,5 in 2015 according to WIKI]

At the same time, anyone who would inquire about the assistance that Israel receives, will understand that calling Israel a beggar or one living for handouts, means that such person does not know anything and does not understand about Israel.

Nimitz Yesterday, 12:43


In this forum, a representative of Azerbaijan, was triumphantly telling about the losses from the Israeli arms among the militias in Nagorno-Karabakh. (Primarily the infamous Spike). Also, if you believe the media coverage of the Georgian conflict [08.08.08 War], our losses in the air were caused by the air defense system of Israeli production. Now the repeated attacks on the Syrian army, on the Syrian territory. Is Israel ready to take into account the interests of Russia, before asking not to sell weapons to certain countries?

rotmistr60 Yesterday, 12:55 ↑


were caused by the air defense system of Israeli production.


You're a bit wrong. Ukrainian air defense together with their crews. But the optics on tanks was of Israeli production and communication means from the US.

Volka Yesterday, 12:43


with whom and how we trade weapons, it is certainly not for the Jews to decide.

AM. GET Yesterday, 12:45


Look how scary it became for them. Russia sells weapons to Iran, it will spread these weapons to Hezbollah, that got stronger in the fighting. Permanent war over Israel forever.

Andrey Yuryevich Yesterday, 12:53 ↑


Quote: AM. GET

Look how scary it became for them. Russia sells weapons to Iran, it will spread these weapons to Hezbollah, that got stronger in the fighting. Permanent war over Israel forever.


Hezes [slang for Hezbollah] in any case are all armed with our weapons, did you see a post recently? So many "Cornets" on "quadricycles"...

AM. GET Yesterday, 13:06 ↑


Excellent! Get more "Kornets", "Konkurses" "Fagots". And do not forget about MANPADS. And soon the neighbors of Hezbollah will have sour faces and dull hung long noses.

vatnik Yesterday, 13:13 ↑


Quote: Andrey Yurevich

Hezes [slang for Hezbollah] in any case are all armed with our weapons, did you see a post recently? So many "Cornets" on "quadricycles"...


It may be an Iranian ATGM "Kornet" which they produce themselves under the name "Dehlavi" since 2012.


dik-nsk Yesterday, 12:51


Comrades Israelites, nothing personal, just business, and if you are afraid, we can sell you something too))))

atalef Yesterday, 12:58 ↑


Quote: dik-nsk

Comrades Israelites, nothing personal, just business,))


We've just asked. It is your personal matter what priorities to set.

In the case of the Israeli arms supplies to Ukraine (for example) - I hope you will look at such supplies with understanding - nothing personal, just business. hi

Moreover, unlike us and Iran, you have diplomatic relations with Ukraine. hi

dik-nsk Yesterday, 13:02 ↑


Syrian troops are also threatening you? Since you flew to bomb them until we covered them with S-300? Or this is because your master from behind the puddle [reference to the US] gave you such order?

Black Colonel Yesterday, 13:12 ↑


"In case of Israeli arms supplies to Ukraine"

It is unlikely. The nezalezhnaya [reference to Ukrainian word for Independent] has no shekels or dollars - everything is already stuffed in the pockets and in offshore bank accounts.

s-t Petrov Yesterday, 13:12 ↑


In case of Israeli arms supplies to Ukraine (for example) - - I hope you will look at such supplies with understanding - nothing personal, just business.


I hope sooner or later Iran will be a nuclear warhead with a couple of "Favorit" and "Vityaz" [names of Russian air missile systems]

Of course, for money. Business. Nothing personal.

atalef Yesterday, 13:16 ↑


Quote: s-t Petrov

I hope sooner or later Iran will have a nuclear warhead with a couple of "Favorit" and "Vityaz" [names of Russian air missile systems]

Of course, for money. Business. Nothing personal.



If you sell, they will buy.

I think we have something to respond to that laughing

ultra Yesterday, 15:09 ↑


Quote: s-t Petrov

I hope sooner or later Iran will have a nuclear warhead


And I just hope that this will not happen! For us, why would we need it?

gabonskijfront Yesterday, 13:14 ↑


And we will supply weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah, it is not recommended to play such chess, Russia is a global player (at least trying to be), so priorities will have to set differently.

atalef Yesterday, 13:21 ↑


Quote: gabonskijfront

And we will supply weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah


They have Russian weapons anyway.

Quote: gabonskijfront

it is not recommended to play such chess


Someone still believes that Hezbollah is able to defeat the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]? belay

Quote: gabonskijfront

Russia is a global player


I have to disappoint you, but with its entire global status etc. --- Russia will not mess with Israel as there is no sense.

Or do you mean a military conflict between us? belay

Zibelew Yesterday, 13:17 ↑


[you are ] accustomed to the complete freedom of action... Well, stop to be! So I look that some countries of the promised land are so excited here. They feel that the time ends up when they were doing what they wanted in the Middle East and bombed whoever they liked, with the words: "We were attacked, we will defend ourselves." In general, we have the Jewish Autonomous Region, all of them may return there) By the way, it is only the Israelites who left the USSR, still receive pensions from Russia. Nobody else is paid. Neither the Russians in the Baltic States or in Central Asia.

Cat Man Null Yesterday, 13:34 ↑


Quote: Zibelew

Only the Israelites who left the USSR still receive pensions from Russia


- Not all. Only those who fully worked to reach pension in the Soviet Union (or in Russian Federation).

- That is paid only to those who earned this pension in the Soviet Union / Russian Federation. Feel the difference?

Quote: Zibelew

Nobody else is paid. Neither Russians in the Baltic States or Central Asia


- But why would Russia pay them?

- They have not left, they continue to live there just as they did under the Soviet Union. No?

- And the Baltic States, and Central Asia are all former republics of the Soviet Union, no? So let them pay the pensions...

Just like this, yes

ivanov17 Yesterday, 19:52 ↑


Well, let America with Medvedev pay their pensions. They should not ride on the backs of hard workers in Russia.

Cat Man Null Yesterday, 19:54 ↑


Quote: ivanov17

They should not ride on the backs of hard workers in Russia.


- You do not know how to read? I repeat for those who are on a Paravoz [Russian slang for a person who cannot or does not want to understand obvious things, literally, one who rides in a steam train, variation: riding in a tank]:

Quote: Cat Man Null

pay only those who earned the pension in the Soviet Union / Russian Federation


- Earned!

- If it is still not clear - then go to a therapist...

ivanov17 Yesterday, 20:27 ↑


Steam train is spelled differently [In Russian]. They are already paid by Israel. Then, it was said already that it would be fair to pay to all former citizens of Russia living outside Russia, and not only the "Russians under Moses Law," who were tearing their passports at the border.

Cat Man Null Yesterday, 21:54 ↑


Quote: ivanov17

Steam train is spelled differently [In Russian].


- correct

- But it was written specifically for those who are riding the steam train

Quote: ivanov17

They are already paid by Israel...


- A private affair of Israel

Quote: ivanov17

it would be fair to pay to all former citizens of Russia living outside Russia, and not only the "Russians under Moses Law," who were tearing their passports at the border.


- Israel has a corresponding treaty, that's why they pay

- Canada, by example, has not bothered to have the same treaty, and therefore they are not paid

- what would seem to be hard to understand?

- About "tearing passports" - did you see this for yourself, or someone told you?

In short, so... to the garden, to the garden...[Russian Internet slang for 'Let me alone']

vatnik Yesterday, 13:37 ↑


Quote: atalef

In case of Israeli arms supplies to Ukraine (for example) - I hope you understand - nothing personal - just business.


Yes, no one doubts that Israel is ready to support Ukraine just like the Nazis and terrorists in Syria.

Wiskar Yesterday, 20:45 ↑


Quote: vatnik

Yes, no one doubts that Israel is ready to support Ukraine just like the Nazis and terrorists in Syria.


No one doubts that you write nonsense.

amurets Yesterday, 13:44 ↑


Quote: atalef

Moreover, unlike us and Iran, you have diplomatic relations with Ukraine.


Iran is a UN member state, Israel is a member of the UN, too, and Ukraine is a part of the former Soviet Union, a member of the UN; the collapse of the Soviet Union was not legally recognized by the EU or the UN; therefore Ukraine as a state does not legally exist. And Israel's weapon supplies to Ukraine is interference in the internal affairs of the former Soviet Union since the collapse of the Soviet Union is not adopted at the international level. Russia is the legal successor of the USSR, which is fixed at the international level.

atalef Yesterday, 13:54 ↑


Quote: amurets

Iran is a UN member state, and Ukraine is a part of the former Soviet Union, a member of the United Nations


Are you all right?

Then Syria is a part of the Ottoman Empire

Quote: amurets

the collapse of the Soviet Union was not legally recognized by the EU or the UN; therefore Ukraine as a state does not legally exist


Clinic [Russian slang for mentally disordered person]

Quote: amurets

And the delivery by Israel of weapons Ukraine is interference in the internal affairs of the USSR,


You probably forgot to take your medicine?

Quote: amurets

since the collapse of the Soviet Union was not adopted at the international level. Russia is the legal successor of the USSR, which is fixed at the international level.


laughing laughing

amurets Yesterday, 14:03 ↑


Quote: atalef

You all right?


I'm fine. Get acquainted here with this

http://prad-media.ru/ukraine-is-not-a-state / and this

http://www.bolshoyvopros.ru/questions/998600-chto-skazal-pan-gi-mun-o-granicah-ukrainy.html

It was said by the UN Secretary General.

atalef Yesterday, 14:06 ↑


Quote: amurets

I'm fine. Get acquainted with this


You would be better for you to name herbs or pills [you are using]. People should at least know how to get high?

amurets Yesterday, 14:27 ↑


Quote: atalef

You would be better for you to name herbs or pills [you are using]. People should at least know how to get high?



From the statements of the UN Secretary General.

ultra Yesterday, 15:10 ↑


Quote: atalef

And then Syria is a part of the Ottoman Empire


Was the Ottoman Empire part of the UN? laughing

ivanov17 Yesterday, 19:53 ↑


And Israel is the occupied part of Palestine then?

...

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 14:10 ↑


Quote: atalef

In case of Israeli arms supplies to Ukraine (for example)


Sanya, hello! Well, why the heck to make it so difficult, it would be easier to transfer it [weapons] to Donetsk [separated region of Ukraine] right away. In the end, all of it will end up there anyway.

atalef Yesterday, 14:18 ↑


Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, hello! Well, why the heck to make it so difficult, it would be easier to transfer it [weapons] to Donetsk [separated region of Ukraine] right away. In the end, all of it will end up there anyway.



My brother-in-law came back yesterday from there. Horror. Devastation... . .

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 14:21 ↑


Quote: atalef

Horror. Devastation...


'From there', is it Ukraine or...LDNR [abbr. Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics]? Or, both?

ivanov17 Yesterday, 19:55 ↑


You mean Kolomoisky? A half of the parliament, whole government and all are your brothers in law. Ukraine - tse Israel [reference to the Ukrainian Slogan 'Ukraina Tse Europa' - Ukraine is Europe popular among nationalists]!!

gabonskijfront Yesterday, 12:54


In general, the Persians were getting along ok with the Jews over the centuries. The Persians anti-Semitism is completely absent. By the way, there are synagogues in Tehran. The trouble is that the Shia global project demands from Iran, as the leader of the Shiite world, to lead an uncompromising struggle against Zionism. In this it joins the orthodox Judaism, which also does not recognize the existence of Israel. Orthodox Jewish Congresses are held regularly in Tehran. I think that over the years, the confrontation with Israel will fade, it will no longer be as prevalent as with the First Ayatollahs, and will be like with the Pahlavi regime until 1979.

Bully Yesterday, 13:23 ↑


Quote: gabonskijfront

In general, the Persians were getting along with Jews for centuries


Oh, really? But the Persians did not know that. You should ask where the Jewish holiday of Purim originates from.

Makluha-Macleod Yesterday, 12:55


May be the Jews will compensate for our losses????

Vejlivy Los Yesterday, 12:56


"Israel asked Russia not to promote the huge deal to sell advanced fighters and other weapons to Iran" says the resource with reference to the defense minister Avigdor Lieberman."

Such requests cannot go unjustified. Or better to say, if they are [unjustified], they are not even considered. In exchange for non-delivery they should offer something equal. I do not know what kind of resource is "Haaretz", and whether its correspondents have access to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, but it seems to me that this news is a fruit of their professional imagination. Although, I would assume that such request was made vocal for the purpose of preventing possible questions of Israeli citizens to the Ministry of Defense:

- "And what did you do personally to oppose the large Russian-Iranian arms deal"?

- "I asked them not to..."

Aleksey_K Yesterday, 13:21


Quote: atalef

I wonder how Israel will attack Iran? Between us there is a distance of 1500 km.


Israeli missiles and nuclear weapons carriers:

Over 20 ICBMs "Jericho-3" (range over 4500 km);

50-90 IRBM "Jericho-2" (flight range 1500-1800 km, warhead weight - 750-1000 kg);

150 tactical missiles "Jericho-1" (500 km, warhead : 1 ton).

The number of nuclear warheads is, according to various estimates, from 100 to 400.

It seems that you are trying to deceive readers; this is so much like all of you.

atalef Yesterday, 13:24 ↑


Quote: Aleksey_K

It seems that you are trying to deceive readers; this is so much like all of you.


And you're talking about preventive or retaliatory nuclear strike?

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 14:12 ↑


Quote: Aleksey_K

It seems that you are trying to deceive readers; this is so much like all of you.


Well, one must not forget that he is a veteran of Alpha. Where is your respect, Konovalov?

Operator Yesterday, 14:38 ↑


The three-stage "Jericho-3" is a copy of the civil launcher "Shavit" and has a range from 4800 to 6800 km, depending on the warhead weight (740 or 340 kg). It has not been accepted to service because there are still no silo launchers.

Developers have two left hands...

atalef Yesterday, 14:50 ↑


Quote: Operator

has not been accepted to service because there are still no silo launchers.

Developers have two left hands...


all is there.



missile "Jericho-3" entered service of the Israeli army in 2008. However, according to MissileThreat.com, the works under the project are still ongoing. According to the website, the missile takeoff weight is 29,000 kg, and length is 15.5 m.

As suggested by the site, as a whole, the structure of "Jericho-3" is similar to "Shavit", which is used to orbit Israeli satellite "Ofek". The fundamental difference may lie in the elongated engine compartment of the first two stages of the rocket.

MissileThreat.com states that, in addition to the 750-pound nuclear warhead, "Jericho-3" capable of carrying a warhead separates multiple independently targetable warheads.

It is also assumed that while the missile is designed for deployment in underground mines, it can be mounted on mobile platforms, including rail cars. Its high speed makes it virtually invulnerable to missile interception.



Operator Yesterday, 16:04 ↑


I specifically mentioned about the mines.

At the moment the missile "Jericho-3" can only be launched from a fixed launch pad of the civic booster "Shavit" (like the Soviet R-7 in 1950).

Theoretically, "Jericho-3" can also be launched from mobile launchers, but they must first be developed and produced for this, after all, the starting rocket weighs nearly 30 tons.

"Therefore, does not bite," (C), that is, does not fly laughing

Wiskar Yesterday, 20:44 ↑


Quote: Operator

they must first be designed and produced


And how would you know what has been designed and produced, and what not?

Your imagination is certainly interesting, but it's just your fantasies.

Operator Yesterday, 21:23 ↑


No information about launchers for "Jericho-3" type whether mine-based or mobile can be found on the Internet including the western authors writing about the missile and nuclear capabilities of Israel.

Your fantasies about what is not existent are interesting.

Wiskar Yesterday, 21:37 ↑


Quote: Operator

No information about launchers for "Jericho-3" type whether silo-based or mobile can be found on the Internet including the western authors writing about the missile and nuclear capabilities of Israel.


Ah.. so now this tells you that Israel does not have it. laughing

Operator Yesterday, 21:55 ↑


Now this tells you that you are not aware of the subject.

Wiskar Yesterday, 21:56 ↑


Quote: Operator

Now this tells you that you are not aware of the subject.


Considering how nicely Professor [a forum member from Israel] laughed at the nonsense that you write here, it is quite clear that you are not just unaware of the subject, but in general you come here to dream wassat

Operator Yesterday, 21:59 ↑


Given that Professor comes to VO [the forum] for pay, his laughter is a paid one too.

Wiskar Yesterday, 22:01 ↑


Apparently you judge him by yourself. Especially considering how well he shows your inability to answer for your words.

TaNin Today, 00:45 ↑


So we kind of never threatened to wipe Iran off the map.

skipper Yesterday, 13:22



Israel appealed to Russia not to sell Iran advanced weapons, RIA Novosti quotes "Haaretz".

Media: Tel Aviv has asked Moscow not to sell arms to Iran

Earlier it was reported that Iran is interested in purchasing large quantities of Russian military equipment.

"Israel asked Russia not to promote the huge deal to sell advanced fighters and other weapons to Iran" says the resource with reference to the defense minister Avigdor Lieberman.

The minister noted that the Israeli government has little chances to influence Moscow on this issue.



And where shall we get money to buy carrots from Israel? laughing

Karaul73 Yesterday, 13:26


Quote: Eragon

Quote: saturn. mmm

It is not always that an immediate benefit leads to further positive effects.




In my opinion, the best solution would be to provide assurances of non-aggression of Israel against Iran, with the relevant agreements between Israel and Russia, but at the same time to guarantee the supply of arms to Iran immediately in case of violation by Israel of its obligations.

And ideally, to oblige Israel to ensure safety of Iran. But it is a utopia. wassat



What in this world today can be a guarantee ?! It's not like math, it's politics. To betray at right moment means to benefit.

Gamer Yesterday, 17:10 ↑


Russian speaking people live in Israel, what if Iran strikes them???

sergeyzzz Yesterday, 13:28


Greeks do not like the possibility of selling weapons to Turkey, Israel to Iran, who else would not like something, and why don't you all go [f-ck yourselves]... These countries do not buy high-tech products from Russia, so [we] cannot listen to them. The US continues economic war against Russia, so any opportunity to sell our goods is a step towards the victory over the United States.

Aleksey_K Yesterday, 13:33


Quote: atalef

In case of Israeli arms supplies to Ukraine (for example) - I hope you will understand - nothing personal - just business.


What kind of business? Ukraine has no money to buy your weapons. I have never heard that the Jews give something to someone for free. And the Americans are likely to be unhappy, they themselves can exports arms to Ukraine in quantities far greater than Israel.

By the way, if you continue to mess [with us], a naval blockade of Israel is almost ready. Americans had organized a blockade against Cuba, and we will arrange this and will sink transports and boats with weapons. And your "shayetet 13" - marine commandos (Naval Commando Unit), we have our own down there.

Cat Man Null Yesterday, 13:44 ↑


Quote: Aleksey_K

... naval blockade Israel is almost ready... we will arrange this and will sink transports and boats with arms


- Say, please, just for yourself, when you say such nonsense

atalef Yesterday, 13:44 ↑


Quote: Aleksey_K

What kind of business? Ukraine has no money to buy your weapons.


Alex - do not count money in someone else's pocket.

Iran, is not buying for its own money



Iran asked Russia to extend additional credits, in addition to those already discussed in the framework of cooperation between the two countries, reports "Interfax" on Thursday, February 4, with reference to the statement by Iran's Supreme Leader advisor Ali Abar Velayati.

"We are talking about $7 billion loan, and it remains as before. But if we want to have an extensive relationship, with this amount the business is not over, it is needed to expand this sphere " said Velayati.


Quote: Aleksey_K

And the Americans are likely to be unhappy, they themselves can exports arms to Ukraine in quantities far greater than Israel.



maybe yes, maybe no. It is just an approach of business, nothing personal

Quote: Aleksey_K

By the way, if you mess [with us], the naval blockade of Israel is almost ready


By whom ? Who and how?

Quote: Aleksey_K

... naval blockade Israel is almost ready... we will arrange this and will sink transports and boats with arms


Listen to Alex before you jump on the horse, and you start waving your hat, I'll tell you my opinion. Against Israel, with the existing grouping of ships and the Air Force, Russia (without the use of nuclear weapons, which according to your information we also have), Russia has no chance.

That's how it seems to me.

Quote: Aleksey_K

And your "shayetet 13" - marine commandos (Special Operations Commandos), we have our own there.


AND?

you started to fall into childhood?

...

vatnik Yesterday, 14:26 ↑


Quote: atalef

Against Israel, with the existing grouping of ships and the Air Force, Russia (without the use of nuclear weapons, which according to your information we also have), Russia has no chance.


What the chances of Israel were we all remember as the gallant Israeli soldiery skedaddled from Lebanon from virtually unarmed but valiant Hezbollah fighters

Alexander Romanov Yesterday, 14:34 ↑


Quote: vatnik

What the chances of Israel were we all remember as the gallant Israeli soldiery skedaddled from Lebanon from virtually unarmed but valiant Hezbollah fighters



Vatnik- Say NO to drugs!

...

atalef Yesterday, 14:43 ↑


Quote: vatnik

What the chances of Israel were we all remember as the gallant Israeli soldiery skedaddled from Lebanon from virtually unarmed but valiant Hezbollah fighters


Yes, really?

In the evening, in an interview with Lebanese television channel NTV on August 27, General Secretary of "Hezbollah" Hassan Nasrallah said that if his organization would know what price will have to be paid for the kidnapping of IDF soldiers, this operation would not have been started. "We did not expect that this will lead to a war of such magnitude" said Nasrallah, "War, which was not known by the history of wars. If we had known, we would have abandoned the operation."

Earlier, a similar statement was made by Deputy Secretary General of "Hezbollah" Naim Qassam, said his organization was surprised by the harsh reaction of Israel. In an interview with Al-Nahar Lebanese newspaper, he said that his organization expected the response far less intense and less extended in time. "We assumed that the attacks would follow, last a day or two, maybe a few attacks in certain areas and, in any case, that this is all over in three days, and will not lead to significant damage" said the sheikh.

In the interview, Nasrallah expressed his regret at the destruction caused by the war. Now "Hezbollah" is actively engaged in the reconstruction of Lebanon, using the money allocated for this purpose by Iran. At the same time, the organization replenishes its arsenal of weapons and ammunition.

vatnik Yesterday, 15:29 ↑


Quote: atalef

Yes, really laughing

In the evening, in an interview with Lebanese television channel NTV on August 27, General Secretary of "Hezbollah" Hassan Nasrallah said that if his organization would know what price will have to be paid for the kidnapping of IDF soldiers, this operation would not have been started. "We did not expect that this will lead to a war of such magnitude" said Nasrallah, "War, which was not known by the history of wars. If we had known, we would have abandoned the operation."



It is natural as the Hezbollah has decent people and they did not think that the Tel Aviv regime would begin to bomb peaceful Lebanese towns killing thousands of elderly, women and children.

That's why they regretted.

Wiskar Yesterday, 20:40 ↑


Quote: vatnik

Hezbollah are decent people


Well, they are very decent..

In September 30, 1985 members of Hezbollah near the Soviet Embassy in Beirut seized and stopped two cars. In one were the consular officer Arkady Katkov and Embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other were KGB residents Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov. Arkady Katkov was killed. Imad Mughniyah nicknamed "Hyena" supervised the killing (we know that Mughniyah not only ordered the execution of Katkov, but also personally shot him).



And they did not think that the Tel Aviv regime will begin to bomb the peaceful Lebanese towns killing thousands of elderly, women and children.


But Israel has never aimed at civilians. Simply decent Hezbollah terrorists hide behind the backs of women and children, and the death of civilians is on the conscience of Hezbollah.



in hundreds of Lebanese villages depots of weapons and ammunition were established by "Hezbollah", they use houses, schools, hospitals and public buildings for their own purposes.

It is noted that in this case "civil" operation of the above facilities continues: often in one half of the house there is a warehouse of weapons, rockets and explosives, and in the other people live.



Gamer Yesterday, 17:14 ↑


no money, but the Israelis are actively instructing, for example, Ukrainian border guards how to serve free-of-charge.

...

Phosgene Yesterday, 13:45


If Israel were not a United States servile, including against Russia, we might think [about it], now we can only tell the Jews to go away with their requests... Friendship must be nurtured , and as to those who remember about Russia only when they want to snatch something from Russia, Russia does not need such friends!

atalef Yesterday, 13:58 ↑


Quote: Phosgene

Friendship must be nurtured , and as to those who remember about Russia only when they want to snatch something from Russia, Russia does not need such friends!



Like the below?

10 countries, to which Russia has written off most significant debts

1. Cuba - $31.7 billion

According to experts, this debt could never be repaid. And through this, we gave them a "carrot" and strengthened the position at the US backyard.

2. Iraq - $ 21.5 billion

Debt was written off twice: $9.5 billion (of $10.5) in 2004 and $12 billion (of $12.9) in 2008. The second time, it was the new debt, the loan taken after the previous debt write-off in 2004.

3. African countries: over $20 billion

Written off in a bulk in the period after 2008 in order as "brotherly assistance".

4. Mongolia - $11.1 billion

Written off in 2003. The remaining $300 million of debt Mongolia, however, immediately returned.

5. Afghanistan - $11 billion

The debts for deliveries of Soviet military equipment, written off after 2006.

6. North Korea - $10 billion

One of the latest "gifts", after 2012. Not the entire sum was written off, $1 billion in debt still remains for the DPRK.

7. Syria - $9.8 billion

8. Vietnam - $9.53 billion

The first debt "forgiven" to a foreign country already in "Putin's" time, in 2000. The total debt of Vietnam at that time was $11.03 billion, the balance must be repaid by 2022. However, not directly, but through investments into joint projects with Russia on the territory of Vietnam.

9. Ethiopia - about $6 billion

In 2001, $4.8 billion of $6 billion of debt was written off in four years another $1.1 billion, that is, almost the entire debt.

10. Algeria - $4.7 billion

Write-off occurred in 2006 - 2007.

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Aleksey_K Yesterday, 14:24


Quote: atalef

And you're talking about preventive or retaliation nuclear strike?


I do not know what "preventive" strike would be [reference to author's misspelling], but the pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran was developed by your warriors in case the appearance of nuclear weapons in Iran with the means of delivery to Israel. A nuclear retaliation from Israel will not succeed. You cannot imagine the consequences of a nuclear massive attack and what happens with the management structures, as well as missiles launch pads. And Iran will soon have a sufficient number of S-300 systems to destroy your missiles.

You do not forget that under the pretext of fighting with ISIS and other evil spirits Iran introduces troops in Iraq and is getting closer to the territory of Israel, and Iran will soon be on the territory of Syria. You seem to have decided to use your nuclear capabilities against Syria, Iraq and Iran.

You will then become "the new Nazi Germany" in the Middle East. Germany ended up in misfortune with its "Drang nach Osten".

atalef Yesterday, 14:41 ↑


Quote: Aleksey_K

I do not know what "preventive" strike would be [reference to author's misspelling], but the pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran was developed by your warriors in case the appearance of nuclear weapons in Iran with the means of delivery to Israel.


Of course, do not create nuclear weapons and sleep well

Quote: Aleksey_K

A nuclear retaliation from Israel will not succeed.


Alex, how about pills? Just a few moments ago [you] wrote that it was designed, and now will not succeed

Quote: Aleksey_K

You cannot imagine the consequences of a nuclear massive attack and what happens with the management structures And Iran will soon have a sufficient number of S-300 systems to destroy your missiles.


Well I can imagine, I'm from Shaetet wink

by the way, what will be downed by S300 ? Missiles? you have been so long time here [at the forum]. you need to learn the technical ABC better.

Quote: Aleksey_K

You do not forget that under the pretext of fighting with ISIS and other evil spirits Iran introduces troops in Iraq and is getting closer to the territory of Israel, and Iran will soon be on the territory of Syria. You seem to have decided to use your nuclear capabilities against Syria, Iraq and Iran.


Really ? Is it already introducing?

Quote: Aleksey_K

You will then become "the new Nazi Germany" in the Middle East


Alex, [I wish you ] health and long years

Operator Yesterday, 21:45 ↑


Aleksey_K

Iran does not need nuclear weapons to turn Israel into ashes and molten glass similar to Novaya Zemlya in 1961 (of course, as retaliation) [reference to the 1961 nuclear test of the so called Tsar Bomba of 50 Megatons ].

It's enough to detonate conventional weapons at the Israeli nuclear reactor in Dimona, with a payload of several hundred kilograms of uranium and plutonium. With the right approach to it, an explosion of about 100-300 MT (2-6 times more powerful than the Soviet Tsar bomb) is guaranteed.

Therefore, all the hysteria about the alleged possibility of Israeli preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear facilities is not worth a damn.

At the same time I am sure that more and more Russian air defense missile systems of long-range S-300 / S-400 / S-500, Su-35s and MiG-31, based in Armenia, will cover the Bushehr nuclear power plant and other peaceful nuclear facilities in Iran from attack by unpredictable Israel.

Why would we want a nuclear disaster near our borders?

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Zaurbek Yesterday, 14:54


Israel is a totally trustable state. If they ask for something then will probably give something in return ... There are a lot of technologies that are needed in RF [Russian Federation]. Just sometimes it turns out that Israel wanted to negotiate about something, but the US blocks the deal.

On the other hand, China has already reached such a level that they can offer Iran what Iran is asking from us. Iran needs equipment for the Army. China produces replicas of the Su-27 fighter jets and light fighter jets, and sophisticated electronics and assault helicopters...

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Utlan Yesterday, 15:12


Send away the Jews. As for the resolution on Crimea, so they voted [against Russia] and as soon as it comes to selling arms to Iran, they ask to stop it. Let them stop to violate the rights of the Palestinians first and then go ranting about human rights in the Crimea. The same hypocrites as Americans.

Zaurbek Yesterday, 15:27 ↑


Prior to that, Russian Federation was voting against Israel, that was a backlash...

Nimitz Yesterday, 15:31


Quote: rotmistr60

provided the air defense system of the Israeli production

You're a bit wrong. Ukrainian air defense was there together with their crews. But the optics on tanks was of Israeli production and communication means were American.



Sorry, I only based on the media reports who wrote about the fact that our aircraft was attacked by a Spider SAM.

Zaurbek Yesterday, 15:49 ↑


Ukrainians used BUKs... They shoot well. And our [air force] being aware of the defense, flew as if in a parade.

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Alexander War Yesterday, 16:12


Quote: tilovaykrisa

This is not for the first time; at first [they] asked not to sell air defense, and now fighters))) in this respect our own interests should be observed above all, especially taking into account the sanctions.


We have our own interests, air defense [decision] was enough. And the laws of the market cannot be canceled. There are many of those who wish to sell weapons to Iran and we need this money, and even more so because Iran is more important ally than Israel

Allo, 17:25


Tel Aviv asked Moscow not to sell arms to Iran


Beggar Tel Aviv, the main thing is that Jerusalem did not ask wink

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